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Saw the preview for Farscape #24...
...and I realized I'm hoping Chiana dies. Which would be sad, but not nearly as sad as her free will and dignity being stripped away, her having literally no choice in who she has sex with (isn't that called rape?), her being suddenly, slavishly devoted to Nebari ideals, and no one giving a shit or thinking this might be odd, or of some concern.
Alive she will continue to be used and abused and alternately ignored and maligned. Dead she will be a free spirit, with Zhaan, D'Argo, Jool, and Sikozu for company.
Huh. Maybe her death at this point wouldn't be sad at all.
Alive she will continue to be used and abused and alternately ignored and maligned. Dead she will be a free spirit, with Zhaan, D'Argo, Jool, and Sikozu for company.
Huh. Maybe her death at this point wouldn't be sad at all.
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I also did not get the whole Roiin/Chiana (probably mispelled Roiin) story at least so far....I must agree that overall the comics up to this point have been disappointing, they just don't have the same "voices" of the characters of the series and by the sounds of things I have not even got to the really bad parts yet!
Also, what is all this religious turn Aeryn is undergoing about? I know her character is supposed to change and grow, but does it have to grow in this weird direction? Again, I am only at an early point in the comics story arc but I am kind of discouraged now reading about what's coming...I must agree with Nym maybe the best thing would have been to just leave it at the end of the series and miniseries..
Even if with a heavy heart I will probably end up reading all of the comic series just because it is supposed to be FS and my love for it is enourmous but I KNOW major disappointment is looming :(
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I don't want to put you off: If you stop reading that should be your choice based on what you've read in the comics, not from me or others.
I found the comics patchy in the "teens". There were some issues (part issues? I'm not going back to check right now) which I thought were well-done and where I thought it was really going to take off next issue. But then it didnt. Quite a lot of the issues since late teens seem to have been just filling in the paper until the end, not moving the story along at all. And I'm guessing they knew it was cancelled by then.
It's probably most enjoyable/least unenjoyable if you dont invest too much in it emotionally and just see it as graphical fanfic that you have to pay for.
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I am such a sucker for anything FS that I will probably stick with it and finish reading all of the comics, that's just the way I am...apart from the fact that I hate leaving things half way finished as it were...
the main problem I foresee is the emotional detachment! I know it sounds crazy but one of the reasons I absolutely frelling loved the show WAS because of the emotions it elicited whether they'd be happy, sad (more often than not) or comical, so seeing these very same characters diminished somehow or given a shoddy treatment (Chiana for one by the sounds of things!) makes me shiver.
You know, I realise that obviously the comics medium cannot even come close to a TV series or movie but to see my (disclaimer: characters belong to the Jim Henson Company and they are not mine or yours or anybody else's ;)) characters fizzle into something that should not ever be is disheartening....on a side note, I think FS is the only show I have ever watched in which ALL of the main characters captured my heart in one way or another - that had never happened before and it hasnt happened since and for that I will be forever grateful to the creators of it(end of side note!)
I will soldier on and probably agonise a little and if it gets really bad I may have to go and get hypnotised into believing the comics never happened! :)
I will keep you posted on how I my reading goes...you brought this upon yourself, my dear ADS!
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Come to the dark side...we have cookies...
It's hard though. I managed to talk myself out of believing the Jean Grey/Phoenix retcon which comprises like twenty or thirty years worth of stories, but somehow, this still bothers me. I think because I care so damn much.
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I also did not get the whole Roiin/Chiana (probably mispelled Roiin) story at least so far....I must agree that overall the comics up to this point have been disappointing, they just don't have the same "voices" of the characters of the series
Agreed about the "voices"; part of that is the medium, but part of it is not.
What bothers me the most I think, about Chiana/Jothee and Chiana/Roiin (I can never remember how to spell it either) is that I can see a bit of promise in both of those developments, something that if well written, directed, acted, I could believe. But from my perspective the execution in the comics is entirely wrong characterization wise, and in Farscape, character is everything. I will sit through the dumbest most boring plot for these characters, as long as they are still themselves. That's why I believe there's no such thing as a truly bad episode of Farscape, because there are no bad characters. In the comics I don't feel them, I don't see them, I don't believe them.
A Chiana/Jothee reunion should have been anguished and guilt-stricken and dark, not a jokey, exhibitionist romp - but that was a quick way to establish Chiana as the "sexy" one. Chiana/Roiin could have been so good, if his motivations had been compelling and his character nuanced, if she were making the decision to be with him after feeling as though she lost everything. Instead...they basically made her a blow-up doll. For a character whose freedom and control over her sexuality is everything, that feels like a slap in the face. But again, it could have worked, had she fought against it (the Chiana I watched for 4 years would kill herself before going down the road the comics have taken her).
Aeryn & the religion storyline is something I'm fuzzy on; I stopped paying close attention there for awhile and have been mainly reading them in the store and keeping up with reviews and summaries over at Gigi Enthusiasts. I know some people felt it was right and some didn't. I am more conflicted about another, later turn in Aeryn's story (and John's role in it) but I don't wish to spoil you. And Richard is right - you should make up your own mind, and not let anyone else dissuade you. Heaven knows I have a lot of unpopular and uncommon opinions!
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I am a little intrigued by that. I am not a particularly religious person and personally I would never "take that turn" as it were, at the same time I am not aversed to spirituality at all, so far I just don't see it with Aeryn...maybe things will improve on that front as I read on. Fingers and toes crossed.
With regards to Chi, I just have to agree with everything you said, the Jothee romping was tastelessly portrayed while so much more could have been made of that relationship...about Roiin I am not sure what is going to happen but I just don't see any appeal in him whatsoever at least until now...
So far that is my problem too I just dont "feel" the characters the way I did invariably in the series - they are not my beloved characters...as Richard said detachment would be the solution but when it comes to FS and all of its flawed but feisty and deeply "human" characters I just seem to fail miserably at it.
I will finish reading the comics but I am afraid it may be because I am a bit of a masochist as well as a hopeless FS fan!
As far as your unpopular and uncommon opinions comment, I don't know about that but I do love people who know their minds and are not afraid to speak them when backed up by a good degree of knowledge and love for the subject they broach and you are definitely one of those people, that's why I love following your posts!
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That's an incredibly kind thing to say, thank you =D
We can be hopeless and masochistic together ;)
I think the religion thing didn't bother me so much for two reasons 1) I was trying not to pay attention/think about the comics when it was happening, and 2) While I'm not religious now, I was for most of my life, and while I would run screaming if I ever felt myself being drawn back in...I can also see the allure and have known too many people for whom it's a huge comfort and blessing in their life. I don't see Aeryn as that type of personality...but as I said, I was trying not to think about it LOL
I'm really bothered by the later storyline because it's one of those typical "look at our strong woman" turns comics like to do, but there's always the man there, making sure she doesn't come off as too strong.