Saw the preview for Farscape #24...

[arevhat]

...and I realized I'm hoping Chiana dies.  Which would be sad, but not nearly as sad as her free will and dignity being stripped away, her having literally no choice in who she has sex with (isn't that called rape?), her being suddenly, slavishly devoted to Nebari ideals, and no one giving a shit or thinking this might be odd, or of some concern.  

Alive she will continue to be used and abused and alternately ignored and maligned.  Dead she will be a free spirit, with Zhaan, D'Argo, Jool, and Sikozu for company.

Huh.  Maybe her death at this point wouldn't be sad at all.

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[nymeria-55.livejournal.com]

Since a comic spoiler is not the same as an episode spoiler (the reason I haven't read your Fringe post yet...) I went and checked your post.

From what you write it would seem that comic characterization has spared no one, and that Chi is only the last in a long list of victims. I had such high hopes for the comics, since they seemed to have taken the place of the now-mythical webisodes, but those hopes are beyond wilted.

Farscape is a show that gave me much, both directly and indirectly, and at this point I prefer that it remains as it is, with its 88 episodes and final mini-series. No further additions, no "extreme measures", thank you very much.

*sigh*

[nebari-rebel.livejournal.com]

Have you seen any of Fringe S4 yet? I can hook you up if you want/need/aren't opposed to downloaded tv (I don't download anything I'd have to pay for if I were still living in the US, but currently airing broadcast tv? No qualms).

From what you write it would seem that comic characterization has spared no one, and that Chi is only the last in a long list of victims. I had such high hopes for the comics, since they seemed to have taken the place of the now-mythical webisodes, but those hopes are beyond wilted.

I admittedly have a very strong bias towards Chiana, and what bothers me deeply may not bother others at all or very much, but I this is what I see when I read them. They've had opportunities to fix it (honestly, I was DESPERATE to like them) and squandered them. For instance, at one point Chiana essentially says "Of course I'm just whoring around with the guy that wants to kidnap Deke and will help him because I have no choice, you know who I am, what did you expect?" And John could have - should have - said "Yes, I know who you are, and this isn't it. You've been sick, you've been acting strange, I know how alone you must be with D'Argo dead, tell me what's wrong and let me help." But no. We get a pissy, glaring "whatever".

If D'Argo's physiology was making him hyper-rage constantly, and he was hurting himself and others...wouldn't everyone come together and try and help him? Wouldn't they care? Wouldn't HE care, and fight against it?

There are other obsessive Chi fans who would disagree with me (and I respect their opinions) but I think this Roiin/Nebari biology story could have been heart-breaking (in a good way LOL) and well done, if it hadn't come out of nowhere, if Roiin had had an ounce of complexity and compassion, if Chiana had fought this change in her tooth and nail, if the others had noticed and been fearful for her, hell, even for themselves! What happened to the Nebari threat? The Nebari living with you, whom you consider a sister, has been taken over by her biology, is consorting with an assassin that wants your son, is visibly sick (I'm talking the rash here, not her suddenly red blood) and you can't be bothered? It makes me so sad.

And Chiana's story isn't the storyline that bothers me the most actually, from a plot perspective. It's just the most hurtful.

Farscape is a show that gave me much, both directly and indirectly, and at this point I prefer that it remains as it is, with its 88 episodes and final mini-series. No further additions, no "extreme measures", thank you very much.

Amen.

On the plus side, the comics have made me think much more favorably of PKW (which I WILL rewatch! Cross my heart, hope to die LOL)

[nymeria-55.livejournal.com]

Have you seen any of Fringe S4 yet? I can hook you up if you want

Oh, thank you very much *flower* , but I'm ok. I have the episodes but I just haven't started watching them yet. I need a free weekend where I can morph into an amoeba in front of the tv and catch up :-)


As for Chiana's characterization - or lack thereof - it's only one of the sore points of the comics: all characters are totally *wrong* (maybe, just maybe Rygel is the only one close to his "true" self). I understand that the comics medium does not allow for depth and psychological introspection, but in this case they have taken each character's most superficial details and exaggerated them into a caricature of the people we loved to watch on screen. So we we were presented a slang-spouting Crichton, a gun-wielding Aeryn, a whoring Chiana, and so on and on and on... Even Scorpius - the UT's mastermind, the person who could out-think and out-smart practically everyone - at some point becomes a victims of his own schemes and is turned into a minion of the invading bad aliens. Please!!

If the comics story-arc must be considered a continuation of the Farscape time-line, I don't like what that particular universe has been turned into. I bought the comics partly because I wanted to show support to a continuation of Farscape in some form, but they turned out to be something else for me as a fanfic writer: they represent the kind of stories, the kind of characters, I *don't* want to write.
Hey, that's something positive after all, isn't it? *VEG*



On the plus side, the comics have made me think much more favorably of PKW

Blessed be the Divine Eternal, then! :-D :-D

[nebari-rebel.livejournal.com]

I need a free weekend where I can morph into an amoeba in front of the tv and catch up :-)

Fingers crossed it's soon! I'm very pleased with the season so far although it's a different, less intense experience, watching it week to week instead of mainlining it.

all characters are totally *wrong* (maybe, just maybe Rygel is the only one close to his "true" self). I understand that the comics medium does not allow for depth and psychological introspection, but in this case they have taken each character's most superficial details and exaggerated them into a caricature of the people we loved to watch on screen.

That's a very succinct way to put it (you have such a way with words!) and exactly my problem with it. Everything else is just details.

If the comics story-arc must be considered a continuation of the Farscape time-line, I don't like what that particular universe has been turned into. I bought the comics partly because I wanted to show support to a continuation of Farscape in some form, but they turned out to be something else for me as a fanfic writer: they represent the kind of stories, the kind of characters, I *don't* want to write.
Hey, that's something positive after all, isn't it? *VEG*

That it is =D And hopefully we will be enjoying your stories, and their universe, for many years to come.

I had more typed out here, but it wasn't making any sense - I think it's time for me to log off tonight :)

[nymeria-55.livejournal.com]

FRINGE
it's a different, less intense experience, watching it week to week instead of mainlining it.

Indeed. It's one of the reasons, besides lack of time and other shows that I follow, for my... hoarding-but-not-watching until now :-)


And thank you, very much, for your kind and generous words on my stories.
I thrive on feedback such as this... :-)
*flower* * hug*